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<![CDATA[I will first tell myself and then to you all. Do not Hate. Calm down. Passion is good, hate is not. Knowledge is good. Respect the intent of the question and the questioner. Okay.. 1. Socialism is not America. American principles promote ideals that quite opposite to socialism. Now socialism is not bad for every country. Some are founded and have gained on socialistic principles for ages and it has become the way of life there. 2. Promotion of socialism based on the ideals of select few is wrong for America. You may see benefits to it, but this is not the right place for it. You believe in it, that is fine. Respect the beliefs of others, the majority. Respect the constitution, what provides fundamental freedom and government non intervention and limitless growth under the laws of the land. 3. What is also wrong is how some of you want it slapped on to America, knowing that the candidate of your choice has strong beliefs in socialism. This will be an opportunistic move, if you just support Obama for your ideology of bringing socialism to America. 4. Obama has partly made his case to the public by showing the lure of socialism. A lot of masses do not understand the real impact of socialism. Ask someone who has spent his teens and youth under a socialistic rule. 5. Socialism while serves to redistribute wealth from rich to poor, it also discourages growth. In a socialistic society, most people are at par. Most major enterprises are government owned. Government run by the few dictate your life and continue to make choices for your. Granted that is the most intense form of Socialism and that is perhaps not what is in your minds, but this is also a slippery fall. Once government gets the kind of power, once there is a fundamental amendment to our constitution, there is a possibility of its taking the more aggressive form, not now, may be in 30 years. Worst of all it rewards incompetency. ========= Socialism...the kind of govt ALL our allies have (everywhere) Reply to: comm-880279181@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-15, 1:11PM EDT Hey right wing douchebags...please tell me about the evils of socialism. Tell me how I should be terrified of EVERYBODY having health insurance. Tell me why corporations SHOULD NOT be taxed for the betterment of society. * Location: everywhere * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 880279181]]>

<![CDATA["What Dearborn is trying to cover up is what Obama and Ayres did with the Annenburg money." There is nothing to cover up, you sociopath. BTW- you drooler, it wasn't only Obama and Ayers. It was also major college presidents, major corporate CEOs and republicans on that board. As well as major McCains supporters and financiers. The money was funneled into the community for educational programs. The Annenbergs oversaw the programs. There is no conspiracy theory, so loosen the tin foil hat. "Obama and Ayres thought that using the money to teach kids to be radicals rather than for academics was a good idea." Prove it, or shut your hole! "Do you think kids should be taught Bill Ayers style of politics? Kill your parents and bomb the pentagon and police? Do you agree queerborn?" You are a worthless troll. "Would you be associataed with Bill Ayres?" If his input on educational matters is good enough for the Chicago corporate elite, major college presidents and multi-billionare republican the Annenbergs, sure, I'd be proud to be associated with him. How many times in your life have you REALLY gotten the shit kicked out of you? I bet its been many. Should I post your address and phone number again? I think I should I think its funny that you can't beat Obama on issues legitimately. So you make up your loony con conspiracy theories. Face it loser, the election is over. Say it with me Cheneymail: PRESIDENT OBAMA!!]]>

<![CDATA[It says Barack Obama, not Barry O'Brian. Get your fingers outta yer eyes and stick 'em back up yer arse.]]>

<![CDATA[Umm, that rant sounded a lot like your schoolday past. Bitter much?]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/09/politics/main3482126.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/09/politics/main3482126.shtml</a> <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88772882" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88772882</a> I think you'll be shocked.... but just so you know.... I wasn't!]]>

<![CDATA[your a classless schmuck and you really dont believe that freedom is worth fighting for but rather worth more being suppressed. That stupid kid should have never tried to have spoken up in the first place, and then he should have just accepted his just desserts and laid quietly to take his beating, then you would have not been burdened to have gone over there and helped out when he kept trying to stand. At least you are being honest even if you dont know it. Theres nothing like keeping the arena of ideas free and clear of any real ideas. Becuase we all know spam is nothing more than an idea attempting to find the light. But I really know its you DIM LIB are like cock roaches and good ideas are the light. I fear for the future when there are people like you who actually think they are worthy of being a leader, fortunetly, up to this point people have got you figured out enough to keep you out of elected office. Oh so further (The Politician) Reply to: comm-880502449@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-15, 3:37PM EDT It's not the kid trying to get up whilst others kick him. It's the kid that performs the same action over and over, and expects a different result. Kinda like Einsteins description of Insanity. Oh, and the CL politix forum has never been known for class. ]]>

<![CDATA[the surprise is that you are apparently drunk early in the afternoon. You usually do your drunken posting later in the evening. ]]>

<![CDATA[Nice try with the birth certificate. But the name on it is Barry Obrian. How about we get to see one for Barack Hussain Obama?]]>

<![CDATA[It's not the kid trying to get up whilst others kick him. It's the kid that performs the same action over and over, and expects a different result. Kinda like Einsteins description of Insanity. Oh, and the CL politix forum has never been known for class.]]>

<![CDATA[ Glad you found that headline interesting. Outraged about that? I'm sure you're just as outraged when I tell you it's actually McCain's transition aide who lobbied for Saddam Hussein. Because if you're not equally outraged, that would make you a hypocrite. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-transition-chief-a_n_134595.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-transition-chief-a_n_134595.html</a> ]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/METRO/810150439/1409/METRO" rel="nofollow">http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/METRO/810150439/1409/METRO</a> Please vote against McCain]]>

<![CDATA[Powell is the one that gave that speech to the UN showing positive locations where WMD's were located. What a traitorous piece of crap. No one needs his endorsement unless your looking for something that doesn't exist. Good endorsement if your a magical pixie hunter. Hanoi Jane Fonda, Shaun Penn, Micheal Moore, Bill Maher, and Madonna turned out to know a lot more about Saddam Hussein, WMD's and the Middle East than the CIA, NSA, Powell, Bush, and the Pentagon. Let's see who they are endorsing?]]>

<![CDATA[From a biased source: When Colin Powell turns off his TV after the final presidential debate, he will have learned everything he is going to learn about the candidates vying to succeed his former boss, George W. Bush. Powell has made it clear that he has been thinking about an endorsement for a long time but wanted to hear more from the candidates before making his choice. It now seems beyond doubt that Colin Powell will endorse Barack Obama and thereby hammer the final nail in the coffin of the Republican campaign to hold onto the White House. The recent ugliness of the McCain-Palin rally audiences cannot be lost on Colin Powell. And Powell is not one to ignore a 14 point lead in a New York Times poll. But most important for Powell and the press will be his explicit rejection of the Bush-McCain approach to Iraq, Iran and the rest of the world. Powell's endorsement will be perfectly timed to dominate a news cycle or two. It will give Obama the one thing he still needs more of--credibility as Commander-In-Chief. And Sarah Palin's speechwriters will be hard pressed to come up with a condescending quip about it. ]]>

<![CDATA[I didnt say you were flagging, even though you admit you are, I guess by your definition of spam that pesky Constitution is Spam, its been printed and reprinted over and over. and again, only in the Lib mind is the kid who keeps trying to stand up while getting kicked and hit by the bulies the real one at fault, by your own admission, you woudl join in too after his third attempt to get to his feet, you a class act. Truth Squad (The Politician) Reply to: comm-880398362@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-15, 2:28PM EDT Umm, I didn't say I was the one flagging. I just see the same message pop in time after time after time and I notice it. I only flag them after it's like the third time posted, thus becoming spam. ]]>

<![CDATA[The surge has failed, there is no Al Queada in Iraq, we just need to leave and let "those people" just fend for themselves, but maybe......... <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081015/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081015/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq</a> maybe it is a failure, its only the No. 2 guy, pretty chinsy really.]]>

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<![CDATA[Umm, I didn't say I was the one flagging. I just see the same message pop in time after time after time and I notice it. I only flag them after it's like the third time posted, thus becoming spam. Way to deflect the argument away about the NYT though. Oh, Bill Ayers, yeah, he's totally planting bombs still, 25 years later. Ok, sure.]]>

<![CDATA[contfrontaitoinal! Confronrtatoijnal! FUCK YOU YOU STUPID DROOLING IDIOT CON> You juat wait untill you loose this elllection, THEN YOU WILL see confrtontiaon. YOU CONS ARE IDIOTS< YOU WILL ALL GET WHAT YOU DESERVE< TIEWD TO WHIPPING POSTS < ]]>

<![CDATA[ con·fron·ta·tion Pronunciation: \ˌkän-(ˌ)frən-ˈtā-shən\ Function: noun Date: 1632 : the act of confronting : the state of being confronted: as a: a face-to-face meeting b: the clashing of forces or ideas : conflict c: comparison The reason we are so confrontational is because back in 1632 someone had a sincere disagreement with someone, but for some reason, no one killed each other. They just talked about it. Other people were impressed, the whole idea really took off and became quite popular. So it's like a tradition now. We just talk a lot. It's like a "talkie-fight".]]>

<![CDATA[Confrontational??? DESTRUCTIVE???? How dare you and hold your tongue... You want distructed words... Listen to sound bites that were extracted from MCCAIN AND PALIN RALLIES!!! You want destructive words??? GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION, MCCAIN IS DOGGING ON OBAMA FOR ACORN SUPPORT.... WHEN FOR A FACT IN 2006 MCCAIN WAS A KEYNOTE SPEAKER ON FEBURUARY 20, 2006 FOR THE ACORN CONVENTION.... GOOD ONE!]]>

<![CDATA[Ok, it had to get there eventually. I am not sure if you are accusing Obama of stealing money or using it to fund radical thought. Either way, you're still a couple sandwiches shy of a picnic. All the money was used on furthering educational theory. You can look it up on line. <a href="http://www.annenberginstitute.org/challenge/sites/chicago.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.annenberginstitute.org/challenge/sites/chicago.html</a> Go ahead and read, but drink a Jolt cola or you will never make it. Don't make me say who Annenburg is again, you have got to know by now... There were never any money discrepancies, and plenty of people from a wide political spectrum worked on the project. The only thing they had in common was a knowledge of education and a desire to help. So go ahead and try again, you get 3 lies for a quarter and you only used two.]]>

<![CDATA[Yeah his supporters are a little easy to provoke. See, he represents all that is good and pure in politics. To even qusetion him or anything about him is downright unmuracan(sic). Gee you don't see that kind of rage in any group, oh except for those who take exception to Scandanavian cartoonists....]]>

<![CDATA[Everytime Alan Combs opens his piehole, lies spew out. Then there's Lanny Davis and Wolfson, oh the lies, lies, lies. Thank God they have Sean Hannity and Bill O'riely to keep some balance.]]>

<![CDATA[Hey right wing douchebags...please tell me about the evils of socialism. Tell me how I should be terrified of EVERYBODY having health insurance. Tell me why corporations SHOULD NOT be taxed for the betterment of society. ]]>

<![CDATA[What makes ACORN particularly embarrassing for Obama is that he used to be one of them. He served as general counsel for ACORN in Illinois, channeled millions to the organization from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (whose funds he distributed) and has lately spent $800,000 of his campaign money to subsidize the group’s activities. For this emolument, ACORN has registered voters 15 times over, canvassed the graveyards for votes and prepared to commit electoral fraud on a massive scale.]]>

<![CDATA[I thought you were the ones wanting to bring the world together? I have never heard people so destructive in their words and thought than Obama supporters.]]>

<![CDATA[I'm not from Iraq - I'm from Minneapolis. Our libs will unite to destroy the conservatives one by one. Hello Socialism! Goodbye America! Maybe we can change the name to the Socialist States of America! Tax the Rich! Take their money! Take their Wealth!]]>

<![CDATA[Poor Little Bitch What Dearborn is trying to cover up is what Obama and Ayres did with the Annenburg money. That is what is important. Didn't think of that did you moron? Obama and Ayres thought that using the money to teach kids to be radicals rather than for academics was a good idea. Well go ahead queerborn, what is you answer to that. Is that not important to you? Do you think kids should be taught Bill Ayers style of politics? Kill your parents and bomb the pentagon and police? Do you agree queerborn? Would you be associataed with Bill Ayres? Start the whining..... you can't defend what they did with the money. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry had his political debut in Bill's home? SO freaking what? (Dearborn-Exposing CHeneymail stupidity) Reply to: comm-879539396@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-14, 8:31PM EDT SO what is that supposed to mean, child? Is Obaam supposed to be guilty of Ayers crimes? Is Obama supposed to be a terrorist? Come on drooler, give it to us. What is this crap supposed to mean? This is nonsense and desperation. You confarts can't win on the issues, so you lean on crap. Hillary got nowhere with this and now that you cons are losing your asses, you're now trying a proven failure of a strategy. The US economy is in the toilet, but all you cons can talk about is nonsense. Cheneymail, if this is all you have, you are weak and pathetic! Now STFU before I slap you down again. ]]>

<![CDATA[Just like the lovely people at FOX news who sued in court for the right to LIE to their viewers...and the republican ct agreed that lying to people is good!]]>

<![CDATA[No, What is the most truly pathetic thing about this board is the absolute disrespect for any opinions beyond your blinders. You are a hater and dont have ANY respect for the principles of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. You are an intolerant narrow mind3ed underearner who carries around hate and vitriol for anything that is successful because of your absolute lack of it. You are the pathetic one here, at least the most of the many. Its funny you call it "ranting" when only someone wants to do is at least have their speech to go unsuppressed, only in a Lib mind is it wrong for someone to continue to stand up when a bully or pack of bullies continues to kick and hit. Your lack of standards is most amazing. and if everybody should have a friend like Bill Ayers? would you say the same if a bomb were to appear under your car someday? Or murdered you Mother or Father? That is what you call service to your community? Truely Most Pathetic. Pathetic con argument (The Politician) Reply to: comm-880109454@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-15, 11:18AM EDT Ok, so all day yesterday someone is ranting over and over when his conservative blogs get flagged. All the Bill Ayers stuff is more or less in these con blogs, but the NYT is the only biased source. Not the con writers that take part in "The Hill." Not WorldnetDaily, heaven forbid that the cherry-picked authors on either side on RealClearPolitics either. You're double standards are amazing. I mean, the real question is why John McCain hasn't come clean and told us why he's not a child molestor! The American people deserve to know the TRUTH about his child molestation! Keep it up with the Bill Ayers NON-ISSUE. Especially since Ayers did more for his community and country the last 25 years than Sarah Palin did her entire life. I said it once and say it again, everyone should have a friend like Bill Ayers. ]]>

<![CDATA[Just think we westsiders of the state wanna know if Detroit doing something different than we are Grand Rapids closing another GM plant 1,500 losing their job You eastsider are lucky dogs you guys been Blown AWAY we all here still waiting for jennifer grandholm to Blow us away ( JUST THINK ALL OF THE UNITED STATE WILL BE BLOWN AWAY DEMOCRATS MINDS THINK ALIKE ]]>

<![CDATA[Posted many times.. but now that's not good enough, now you have to have it in your hands to determine if it's falsified? No other presidential candidate EVER went through that kind of scrutiny. Can I see John McCain's? Because I think he was born off base, oh, and when I see that certificate can I take it home for a while so that I can possibly change it? Thanks..]]>

<![CDATA[Ok, so all day yesterday someone is ranting over and over when his conservative blogs get flagged. All the Bill Ayers stuff is more or less in these con blogs, but the NYT is the only biased source. Not the con writers that take part in "The Hill." Not WorldnetDaily, heaven forbid that the cherry-picked authors on either side on RealClearPolitics either. You're double standards are amazing. I mean, the real question is why John McCain hasn't come clean and told us why he's not a child molestor! The American people deserve to know the TRUTH about his child molestation! Keep it up with the Bill Ayers NON-ISSUE. Especially since Ayers did more for his community and country the last 25 years than Sarah Palin did her entire life. I said it once and say it again, everyone should have a friend like Bill Ayers. ]]>

<![CDATA[Every thing you cited, about how Detroiters are, is a direct reflection of the character of a culture and its people in general, So, why would any person of decent moral character, why would any business, want to either stay here, or relocate here? Your pride in the general moral debauchery of Detroit is exactly why your house is worth half of what it used to be and your degree is isn't worth wiping your ass with. As I said before, I as an educated and working individual, will be leaving this hellhole of a 3rd world city at my earliest convenience, so you animals can continue to carry pride in your lack of the simplist of human decencies. knowing how this city works is a GREAT reason why I buy foreign. If its what makes you so special, its what make you special in the short bus way. RE: Amazing things (Downtown) Reply to: comm-880031530@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-15, 10:17AM EDT This is Detroit, want someone to be nice to you? I was in my first knife fight in the 8th grade. When I was 15, my girlfriend was shot in the stomach while we were at a birthday party. When I was 19, I borrowed my Dads car once and had to pay for bullet hole repairs because my car got caught in crossfire. When I was 21, someone stole my jacket at a bar, then grabbed my keys out of the pocket and stole my car. My friend and I drove around Detroit all the next day and found it, whores had used it (used condoms everywhere) until someone took a big crap all over the back seat. When I was 25 I got jumped by three guys because I was dating a girl in their neighborhood. When I was 28 I finished my degree and got a job making half of what those union line workers in the big three make. Now I'm 40, my Manufacturing Engineering degree isn't worth wiping my ass with, my house is worth half of what I paid for it, and I make less than my first job after I graduated college. Detroiters are supposed to be pissed off now, it's how people react when things go badly. It's what makes us special. :) So if you want someone to be nice to you? Buy a puppy and shut the fuck up! ]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/144428/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/144428/index.php</a> McCain's slur against Arabs of Dearborn]]>

<![CDATA[This is Detroit, want someone to be nice to you? I was in my first knife fight in the 8th grade. When I was 15, my girlfriend was shot in the stomach while we were at a birthday party. When I was 19, I borrowed my Dads car once and had to pay for bullet hole repairs because my car got caught in crossfire. When I was 21, someone stole my jacket at a bar, then grabbed my keys out of the pocket and stole my car. My friend and I drove around Detroit all the next day and found it, whores had used it (used condoms everywhere) until someone took a big crap all over the back seat. When I was 25 I got jumped by three guys because I was dating a girl in their neighborhood. When I was 28 I finished my degree and got a job making half of what those union line workers in the big three make. Now I'm 40, my Manufacturing Engineering degree isn't worth wiping my ass with, my house is worth half of what I paid for it, and I make less than my first job after I graduated college. Detroiters are supposed to be pissed off now, it's how people react when things go badly. It's what makes us special. :) So if you want someone to be nice to you? Buy a puppy and shut the fuck up!]]>

<![CDATA[ [Both House Members and Senators] security clearance vest simply by virtue of their having been Elected. So this means there was no back ground check on Obama. So the court case against Obama filed by a Dem. Attorney that says Obama was not born in the U.S. could be true. If its not why does'nt Obama just show his birth certificate? Why does Obama keep putting this court case off? Why? Why? Why? Why? We can'nt afford all the why's that come with Obama.]]>

<![CDATA[Hey everyone, Dearburn days the NYTs has ruled on this issue. What more do you want? Daily Kos? Huffington Post? I mean, if you can't believe the NYTs, who can you believe? ]]>

<![CDATA[Calm Down All. Questions needs to be objective and the answers need to respect the intent. Part of the fire is being fueled by mistrust of intentions of both sides. This is a NY Times recent article on Oct 4, 2008 which is not impartial. The questions about association with Bill Ayers are being asked of Obama for a very long time. Obama has still not answered his complete association with Ayers. See, this is what causes further distrust. Yes, Obama was 8 years old when Ayers conducted these Anti-American Acts. This is a disingenuous answer and is an attempt to ridicule rather than actually explain his relationship, part of which is given in this Article. So, what is the real issue: 1. Why is Obama not forth right with his past associations? Right or wrong, good or bad, just come clean. Why is Obama not disclosing about hosting a joint fund raiser with Ayers? How about reading Ayers books and discussing Ayers position on teen's issues? These all did not happen in a month. There was an extended association, which is still being denied by Obama. 2. Why has Obama not disclosed his representation of ACORN? Just in the last few days Obama has made a partial disclosure about a joint federal initiative with ACORN. No mention or disclosure of his case on behalf of ACORN to sue Citibank for not issuing mortgages to lower credit ratings. Why hide? Why hide his efforts to train ACORN associates? How has Obama handled this issue is, by saying that he has had no active relations with ACORN since 2002. This is again a bad explanation. Instead of explaining what he hasn't done, he should detail what all he actually did. We know Obama has concealed Citibank case here. (sued on June 06, 1994) 3. Same issue with Rev Wright. Yes, he denounced and finally renounced him. But when? When it became deterrent to his political progress, not before. Knowing fully well that financial crisis was a result of CRA from 1977 and that Obama himself was part of this snowball as early as in 1994, that led to $1T worth of worthless loan issues, he still tried to put the blame on Bush. Yes strict supervision could have minimized the blow, but you know Dems had twice blocked the revamping of Freddie/Fannie. Why accuse Bush falsely then? Obama has positively lied here too. There is a pattern of concealment and some definite proofs of lies by Obama. Question now becomes, Why Lie? Why Conceal? How is it that almost all of his important associates had radical and Anti-American ideals? And how come Obama being so smart did not know any of these? Obama has so vehemently made his case against Iraq war and has touted his Judgment. So where was this judgment, while he was dealing with radical ideologies. Oh yes, Obama did say that he did know know of their Radical views then. Whose all? Ayers', Rev Wrights', Farakkhan's views, ACORN's agenda of exploiting CRA for those who never deserved loans in the first place. A practitioner of law did not know that personal dealing with his official client Tony was immoral. This issue of $300k bribe would not have occurred, if only he had purchased the House through another dealer. He didn't because Obama stood to gain, obviously and he did. That time Obama never even dreamed of getting into politics, so ethics was not even an issue. I know I am questioning Obama hard. But why shy away, if you did not do anything wrong? That is the issue. Not that anyone claims Obama was a terrorist. You want to be rational about it, answer it rationally. And, if you do not have an answer, as I don't, then join the efforts to find the answer. Let Obama camp enlighten us all. So far they haven't. ================ Exposing con lies regarding Ayers and Obama (Dearborn-Pummeling Cheneyshit) Reply to: comm-879552517@craigslist.org [?] Date: 2008-10-14, 8:42PM EDT Suck on this, Cheneycrap! <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin</a> Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors. That project was part of a national school reform effort financed with $500 million from Walter H. Annenberg, the billionaire publisher and philanthropist and President Richard M. Nixon’s ambassador to the United Kingdom. Many cities applied for the Annenberg money, and Mr. Ayers joined two other local education activists to lead a broad, citywide effort that won nearly $50 million for Chicago. Since 2002, there is little public evidence of their relationship. So what is it cons? is Obama supposed to be a terrorist because of a casual and peripheral relationship? Are all the conservatives who also worked with him on the Annenberg board also terrorists by association? Is everyone who has had coffee with Ayers really a terrorist by association? Is every student he's had really a terrorist by association? SOrry cons, this is the dumbest election strategy in history. The more you push it, the further Obama advances in the polls. You people are desperate morons... especially the POS Cheneycrap ]]>

<![CDATA[Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton. Anyone Obama ever met should have been thoroughly vetted in case they ever did anything immoral in the 60's while ignoring the fact John McCain had multiple affairs and then cheated and divorced his injured wife because she wasn't hot anymore. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "I can't find Bin Laden" diversion. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to the spirit of international harmony. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing UN resolutions against Iraq. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. A president lying about an extramarital affair is a impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages, censoring the Internet, and utilizing illegal wiretaps on its citizenry. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery. ]]>

<![CDATA[The Ten Commandments--Republican Style I. Thou shalt talk about Christian principles, but not live by them II. Thou shalt attack opponents personally when you can't win on policies III. Thou shalt call yourself pro-life, but be in favor of the death penalty IV. Thou shalt call yourself pro-life, and put guns in the hands of school children V. Thou shalt give lip service to democracy while taking away civil liberties VI. Profit is the Lord Thy God, thou shalt not put the people's interest above those of your corporate contributors VII. Thou shalt make sure fetuses have health coverage, but leave children and babies behind VIII Thou shalt bear false witness against your opponents and liberals, and demonize them** IX. Thou shalt run on a moderate platform, then enact right-wing policies as soon as possible X. Thou shalt call the media liberal, so that people forget that the media is owned by corporations with a conservative fiscal agenda]]>

<![CDATA[These are the questions that America wants to ask. No malice, no hatred, just the answers we all want to know. You want to know. Respect the intent and further the American cause. We should ask similar questions from McCain, these are for Obama: 1. How can America trust your judgment, when you decided to associate and collaborate with not one but multiple radicals -Rev Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers & Dohrn, ACORN? 2. Why did you continue to conceal your associations with these groups? Why did you not come clean about these people you collaborated with, when, why and for how long? 3. Why did you accept a private price for a prime housing property from your client Slum Lord Tony Rezko at a discount of $300,000 from the market price? Is it not a bribe? 4. You are promising 5,000,000 green jobs in next 4 years, how are you going to do it even when the technology is not there yet? Do you really mean the count of 5 million, or is it just a number for you, to get public support? 5. How can a business expand when you increase its cost of capital in higher taxes? Your policy will encourage a small business to stay small or you will tax them high. How will the jobs get produced? 6. Was your stance against Iraq war a judgment or an Ideology of pacifism? 7. Didn’t you say terrorism is a law enforcement issue? Didn’t you say 1994 WTC handling was correctly handled, we sued the terrorists? Were you able to prevent another attack by suing the terrorists? 8. Where was your judgment, when you sued Citibank on June 6, 1994 for issuing loans to less credit worthy under CRA, which lead to the financial crisis? Did you know, you started the snow ball? 9. Why do you call financial meltdown as Bush’s failed economic policies, when you knew you actively contributed to this, and when you knew that CRA was initiated 31 years ago? 10. Where was your protest when Barney Franc defended Freddie/Fannie in 2003? Why do you only see what is convenient to you. 11. Why did you not support McCain in his quest to reform Freddie/Fannie in 2005? 12. Why did you vote for your party, against your own joint bipartisan immigration bill with McCain? 13. When you sued Alice Palmer for incorrect signatures and got her denominated, was it morally right to sue one who encouraged you to take her place? 14. Where is your voice against ACORN voter registration fraud? Or your voice comes in only when it benefits you? 15. Where is your judgment for hiring ACORN and paying them $800,000 to register votes? 16. Why do you deceive people by equating deregulation to lack of regulation and its oversight? Deregulation is government non intervention and nonintervention does not mean lack of supervision. 17. How will you prevent companies from moving to India, China, and Ireland where corporate taxes are much lower? 18. Are you going to block imports from China that has been flooding our markets for the last 25 years 19. What will you do when the US companies become price uncompetitive due to increased taxes and lose foreign exports and then jobs? 20. What is the size of the largest group you have ever led and actively managed? And, for how long? 21. Isn’t it true that you made visits to India, Pakistan, Kenya, and Indonesia while you were a student at CA (UCLA?) where did you get the money to travel all these places? 22. Why is it so that you only selectively know and remember the facts that are beneficial to you and have a total ignorance of the one’s that are against your position? a. you claim you did not know Ayer’s views b. Farrakhan’s views c. Rev Wrights views d. ACORN’s agenda e. Personal deal with your client Tony, is a conflict of interest, and is unprofessional f. House you purchased was below the market price 23. How do you promote hard work and excellence when you are willing to reward lazy, by the tax money of one’s who worked hard? And, there are some more for you. Why doesn't Obama come clean instead of people digging out the past and then Obama making terse, dismissive statements? Don't people have a right to know Obama's current as well as past views? Why is quest for information viewed as an attack? If you are clear in your heart and intent and had disclosed these in advance or simply answered them, would there be any issues today? Do you feel comfortable supporting a person who has a concealed past and is scared to open up? Why do you think the list of questions for Obama keeps getting longer, and there are hardly any for McCain? You have no reason to feel insulted or worried by these questions, if you supported Obama. Because armed with the clear answers you will only further Obama's cause. Have someone you know about Obama, collect answers to questions for Obama. Cheers]]>

<![CDATA[I love to watch the hatred float around this country because one guy decides to pick on someone else.... And I would like to know who ever thought that television and the media don't affect our lives and our attitudes. Just because our candidates choose to have a messy battle, doesn't mean we have to be just as close minded. But then again, it's your freedom to be a moron! The only person you have to be mad at for being misinformed is the media itself, because I don't know how many of you people know this, but they are just a bias as you or I. Everyone has their own personal agenda, Yes, even the media folks. You can't help but put your own opinion in something that you write. I even took the liberty to find websites that offer Senate voting records (FOR FREE) and printed them out. Inform yourself, don't let everyone else do it for you! I want to know who else in this country watches the debates and takes notes because this is important to them??? Probably none of you, right? If you have an issue with whats going on, by all means speak your mind. Just remember the only thing that will matter will be the silent vote we take on November 4th. Until then I guess we can all agree to disagree.]]>

<![CDATA[I have seen too much horror, caused by the criminalization of maryjane. The candidate knows we need hash parlors like in free-society, Amsterdam. You know he smokes tons of cigarettes, and knows those newport and marlboro lights chemicals, make us extremely sick. Even him. If anything, he must 1st do that. Watch crime drop 50% after he legalizes!]]>

<![CDATA[Yes Dearborn, you finally got it. The aging hippie Ayers has turned everyone he touched into terrorists, even those evil conscum on the Annenberg Board. Woohoo you finally saw the light......You missed the point by your usual mile but I have a big doins in the am and you bore me..... But, I don't mass mail anyone. Load spybotsearchandestroy on your system, lose adaware and the mailings will go bahbye. I used to be hit too. Keep up the good fight, even if it pisses people off, hopefully it will make them think for themselves...oh and don't get cocky, I'm not conceding anything ]]>

<![CDATA[No harm no foul. As I have stated many times, whomever wins will be my Prseident as well for four years. That person deserves the respect that the office commands. Have a great night.....k]]>

<![CDATA[They sure as hell can't win by talking up that other guy. This is the best shot they got. Besides, I love the crazy loony posts, like the one about the birth record, lets see that one again. Let's draw out that controversy for 22 more days. Call him a Marxist, talk about how he rigged the election, talk about how he is about to institute fascism, socialsim, communism, and any other isms you like, talk about radical liberals, I love that too. Raise your taxes, OMG! If John McCain was my candidate, I would trash the other guy and hope for low turnout too. ]]>

<![CDATA[Cheneymail FYI - my post this morning was a compliment to your statement. Not an attack. We may all differ in our political opinions. At the end of the day, we need to vote and abide by the results. ]]>

<![CDATA[Hillary didn't get anywhere with it because the folks who report on such stuff are in the tank for "The One." Well what does it mean?? Hmmm, I know, I'll go into politics and have Daniel Carver host a picnic for me. He's nice to Robin so he's gotta be an all right kind of guy. The outcome, not to worry, his crimes were years ago, besides I was a kid then. Oh he still speaks hatred, doesn't matter, it's just a meet and greet, these kind of ass ociations don't mean anything in real life, the press will ignore it, like they ignored the fact the guy who introduced Barry to politics once lead the groupm that bombed real places in America and wishes he could bombed more. Fair is fair right. What's not fair is Dearborn's little brother being so much biiger down there and longer lasting too. But Dearborn whimpers and begs better. Gotta get my talking points from Sean now. ]]>

<![CDATA[Suck on this, Cheneycrap! <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin</a> Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors. That project was part of a national school reform effort financed with $500 million from Walter H. Annenberg, the billionaire publisher and philanthropist and President Richard M. Nixon’s ambassador to the United Kingdom. Many cities applied for the Annenberg money, and Mr. Ayers joined two other local education activists to lead a broad, citywide effort that won nearly $50 million for Chicago. Since 2002, there is little public evidence of their relationship. So what is it cons? is Obama supposed to be a terrorist because of a casual and peripheral relationship? Are all the conservatives who also worked with him on the Annenberg board also terrorists by association? Is everyone who has had coffee with Ayers really a terrorist by association? Is every student he's had really a terrorist by association? SOrry cons, this is the dumbest election strategy in history. The more you push it, the further Obama advances in the polls. You people are desperate morons... especially the POS Cheneycrap ]]>

<![CDATA[SO what is that supposed to mean, child? Is Obaam supposed to be guilty of Ayers crimes? Is Obama supposed to be a terrorist? Come on drooler, give it to us. What is this crap supposed to mean? This is nonsense and desperation. You confarts can't win on the issues, so you lean on crap. Hillary got nowhere with this and now that you cons are losing your asses, you're now trying a proven failure of a strategy. The US economy is in the toilet, but all you cons can talk about is nonsense. Cheneymail, if this is all you have, you are weak and pathetic! Now STFU before I slap you down again. ]]>

<![CDATA[Well, chenymail lives on a high floor so the basement equation is moot. He'd have to go uncrypt ma from Holy Sep so that's a bust too. And he don't put a lot of stock in polls for reasons previously posted. And the only time he ever has crap on him is when Dearborn isn't clean "down there" but Cheneymail just wipes it off rearborn's pillowcase and all is right with the world again..]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/14/opinion/polls/main4522273.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/14/opinion/polls/main4522273.shtml</a> All the con whining and lying is pushing voters to Obama. Keep up the great work cons! I feel sorry for Cheneymail's Mom, she's gonna have to mop up the floor in the basement near his computer after he craps himself from rage. ]]>

<![CDATA[Ahh Dearborn, when you get it wrong, you aim for the fences and always deliver. Yeah I get rank with you but always as a responce to the first insulting salvo you misfire. A couple of points skippy. 1. We have never debated or argued a point yet. You bring something up. I or someone challenges it, you resort to the first refuge of a coward. Name calling. Then you twist the subject into a whole other direction. Case in point. Bill Ayers. I brought up the fact that Barry had his political debut in Bill's home. That is a fact, not some madeup millieu of Foxnews. A fact. It was to gear him up to replace Ms Palmer. After your usual barrage of evil conscum insults, you proceded to tell me it was a meet and greet and I know nothing of politics. Then you tore into that they sat on a board for the Annenbergs. One, I didn't bring up the board or the Annenbergs. The "meeting" was all I brought up. The type of meeting where checkbooks are welcomed. Do you think there was an AFSCME steward at that meeting?? The meet and greet. The one held in a mansion so all the common folk could come press the flesh?? No skippy, you have never won a thing. Neither have I. We are two blowhards using this forum for what it is, a place to exchange ideas. It's just some of us actually have our own ideas and can see two sides to an issue. Sadly you cannot. The larger sadness is that your type has permeated both parties. By the way your , your brother is a much hotter piece of ass.]]>

<![CDATA[Hey folks this is stuff not from a website or a Foxnews junkie, but things out and about in the open. One person here will claim that it has all been answered and is merely a smear from an evil con. Well I am an evil con, but I have eyes and ears. Responding to a question and actually answering it are two different things. Question 1? Did "the One" know that his political introduction was being made in the home of a radical? An unrepentent radical? The answers you get are he was 8 years old at the time. Did the radicals views on America change. Question 2? Was he really unaware of his pastors rants against America? His pastor was his spiritual advisor for 20 years, yet he knew not of his leanings? At his "historic" speech on race in Philadelphia, he said he could no more disavow his pastor as he could his white grandmother, in doing so throwing her under the bus. But when his pastor gave a speech in DC at the press club a few months later, Barry threw Jerry under the bus, backed it up and ran over him again. Let's draw a line here, in 20+ years , the radical could have changed but the pastor couldn't?? Even I can't find logic in that one. Question 3? He was editor of the Harvard Law Review. When a Supreme Court nominee is vetted, all their college papers are poured over. Barry's are sealed. Anyone know why?? Question 4? He was a practicing attorney. Anyone ever had a chance to read a legal brief he wrote? A motion? Anything?? Question 5? He was a community organizer. Nothing wrong with that. Here in Detroit Bill Cunningham and Mother Wattles were community organizers. They're legacies still stand and serve the community. What were his accomplishments in S Chicago. Question 5? He saw the finacial crisis looming two years ago. Did he introduce legislation to correct it? He wrote a letter. He railed against Countrywide until it was discovered the head of his vp selection committee was in bed with them. Tip of the iceberg, easy to check, but you'll find no answers. This will be viewed as hate speech. But on this site the other candidates wife's drug problem has been ridiculed. His first marriage picked apart. His so-called involvement with the Keating 5, which no criminal proceedings were brought against him. His killing of fellow sailors by misfirirng a missile. The fact he owns foreign cars, which by the way the only car he owns is Cadillac. His kids have cars that are foreign made. That he is senile and hot tempered. It seems the other side can throw whatever they want at someone who has lived a PUBLIC life that can researched, but if anyone dares the to question "The One" somehow they must be racist or hatefilled.]]>

<![CDATA[While at a rally at a local university, I overheard some young male voters encouraging their friends to vote Obama because McCain would restore "The Draft". Well, we know how Obama loves to do those flip-flops. Now it seems that Obama has plans for drafting both our young men and women. They will all serve the OMessiah. <a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08287/919582-470.stm?cmpid=elections.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08287/919582-470.stm?cmpid=elections.xml</a>]]>

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<![CDATA[When you ignore facts, and go right for childish Junior High insults, I have no choice but to consider those as a concession of the debate. Thats OK, you can always sign me up for more email lists. That always seems to boost your self esteem a couple notches. Game-set-match---YOU LOSE! As always! As a matter of fact, I've never seen a con win a debate. ]]>

<![CDATA[You have to see this and share it !!!!! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=related</a>]]>

<![CDATA[I appreciate the latest rounds of postings citing Obama is not actually a citizen or has a birth certificate. You people sound like you just escaped from the looney bin. Please keep up the good work. I am sure this latest rumor is just the ticket to make everyone think Republicans are completely off their rocker. PS No one has been using the word Marxist in awhile, and don't forget Saul Alinsky ties.]]>

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<![CDATA[Why, who else? <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568925/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568925/</a>]]>

<![CDATA[You're right we should just make up, but when he got caught in that Minnesota airport bathroom servicing old dudes, it was just the last straw. I know he was getting back at me for doing his brother and all his friends. Butt old guys in the airport, he went too far...]]>

<![CDATA[Voters have to see this one !!!! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=related</a>]]>

<![CDATA[What the person heard her say on the phone was: Two federal agents arrived at Jessica Hughes' home Thursday to ask her if she said, "I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor." She says she didn't say it, so nothing happened. What's the big deal? Absolutely nothing happened to this woman except for being asked what she said. This is such a non-story.]]>

<![CDATA[Will you two just make out already and get it over with? lol..]]>

<![CDATA[McCain’s economic plan is predictable. It’s never changed for the 26 years he’s been in Washington, and is defined by his man (and Bush’s) PHIL GRAMM. It’s called BIGGER CORPORATE PROFITS BY DEREGULATING so Big Biz can rape and pillage us. The second part of McCain’s economic policy is to further the BUSH MASSIVE TRANSFER OF THE NATION’S ECONOMY to the CORPORATE RICH who have been so generous to McCain for 26 years. The third part of McCain’s economic policy is to continue to depress wages for Americans by handing over AMNESTY to 38 million Mexican flag wavers. California now operates yearly $16 billion in the red, and puts out $16 billion in social services to illegals. Sanctuary city Los Angeles, which the Christian Science Monitor refers to as the “Mexican gang capital of America” now puts out $40 million per month in welfare to illegals, and calculates that it will operate $400 million in the red. 47% of those employed in Los Angeles are illegals. HOW LONG CAN WE KEEP ON GOING LIKE THE ABOVE??? October 14, 2008 Obama Expands Economic Plans By JACKIE CALMES and JEFF ZELENY TOLEDO — Senator Barack Obama on Monday expanded his economic platform, including proposals to spur new jobs, to give Americans penalty-free access to retirement savings to help them through the downturn, to urge a 90-day moratorium on home foreclosures and to lend money to strapped local and state governments. “We need to give people the breathing room they need to get back on their feet,” Mr. Obama said in an afternoon speech here at the Sea Gate Convention Centre before a crowd of more than 3,000 people. Mr. Obama called on Congress to double by another $25 billion the government loan guarantees for automakers and to temporarily eliminate taxes on unemployment benefits. Campaign advisers said those steps and several others could be taken before January through current laws or by the Democratic-controlled Congress acting in a lame-duck session. Mr. Obama outlined his revised plan in Toledo, a struggling city that is representative of the economic crisis and the battle for industrial-belt swing states that could determine the winner of the Nov. 4 election. He is spending three days in northwestern Ohio, sequestered with an advisers to prepare for the third presidential debate on Wednesday. In a 30-minute address here, Mr. Obama also called on Americans to embrace a new “ethic of responsibility.” His speech was supplemented with visions of optimism, but conceded that tough times faced the nation in the coming months and years. “I won’t pretend this will be easy,” Mr. Obama said. “George Bush has dug a deep hole for us. It’s going to take a while for us to dig our way out. We’re going to have to set priorities as never before.” Senator John McCain, his Republican rival, also gave an economic speech in Virginia Beach, Va., with no new policy prescriptions, having rejected his advisers’ options over the weekend as too gimmicky, according to one Republican close to the campaign. He offered a glum sense of the nation’s economic outlook, bracing people for the challenges ahead. “These are hard times, my friends,” Mr. McCain said. “Our economy is in crisis. Financial markets are collapsing. Credit is drying up. Your savings are in danger and your retirement is at risk. Jobs are disappearing.” While the Obama campaign billed the speech here as a major economic address, about three-fourths of the proposals had already been announced. But the handful of new plans were intended to highlight how he would immediately help middle-class Americans — if not his own political standing by reassuring voters he is on top of the crisis. “At a time when the ups and downs of the stock market have rarely been so unpredictable and dramatic,” Mr. Obama said, “we also need to give families and retirees more flexibility and security when it comes to their retirement savings.” Mr. Obama reprimanded his audience when people started jeering at the mention of Mr. McCain’s name, declaring: “We don’t need that. We just need to vote.” Mr. Obama praised Mr. McCain’s proposal to waive the rules that penalize retiree withdrawals from 401(k)’s, saying: “I want to give credit where credit is due.” Before Mr. Obama spoke here, aides announced the highlights of his speech. They did so after word had spread on Sunday evening that Mr. McCain would not be presenting new economic proposals, as had been suggested by some aides. The Obama campaign was attempting to maintain its hold on the economic message that has lifted the Democratic candidate in recent weeks. “We have the advantage of sharing ideas that are consistent with the ideas we have shared before,” David Axelrod, the campaign’s chief strategist, said in an interview. New polls suggest mounting economic anxieties among voters are fueling Mr. Obama’s growing lead in many polls against Mr. McCain. The main new proposals would: — for the next two years, give businesses a $3,000 income-tax credit for each new full-time employee they hire above the number in their current workforce; — allow savers with tax-favored Individual Retirement Accounts and 401(k)’s to withdraw 15 percent of those retirement savings, up to a maximum of $10,000, without paying a tax penalty as the law currently requires for withdrawals before age 59 and a half; — bar financial institutions that take advantage of the Treasury’s rescue plan from foreclosing on the mortgages of any homeowners who are making “good-faith efforts” to make payments; — direct the Treasury and the Federal Reserve to create a temporary facility for loans to state and local governments, similar to the Fed’s new arrangement to loan corporations money by buying their commercial paper, which are the I.O.U.s that help businesses with daily operating expenses like payrolls. Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for Mr. McCain, criticized the Obama plan as one that would raise taxes on Americans, which he said would have “a devastating effect.” “Interestingly, Barack Obama called a moratorium on foreclosures, which is a policy he had previously labeled disastrous when it was proposed by a political opponent,” Mr. Bounds said, referring to a plan proposed by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. “Proving yet again that Barack Obama’s positions on the issues are tied to elections, not solutions for the American people.” During his remarks here, Mr. Obama gently scolded all Americans for “living beyond their means — from Wall Street to Washington to even some on Main Street.” His audience of supporters applauded as he said it was a moment in the nation’s history to pull together and sacrifice. “We’ve lived through an era of easy money, in which we were allowed and even encouraged to spend without limits; to take out as many credit cards as possible, to take out as many credit cards as possible, to borrow instead of save,” Mr. Obama said. “Now, I know that in an age of declining wages and skyrocketing costs, for many folks this was not a choice but a necessity just to keep up, I understand that.” “But we now know how dangerous that can be,” he continued. “Once we get past the present emergency, which requires immediate new investments, we have to break that cycle of debt. Our long-term future requires that we do what’s necessary to scale down our deficits, grow wages and encourage personal savings again.” Obamanomics: How Bottom-Up Economic Prosperity Will Replace Trickle-Down Economics (Paperback) John R Talbot Editorial Reviews Product Description Best-selling author John R. Talbott, widely regarded as one of the first to predict the current housing and mortgage crisis, turns his attention to the economic possibilities achievable under a Barack Obama presidency. Obama's greatest strength is his ability to bring the country together. For too long divisions among races, religions, political views, cultures, genders, and sexual preferences have prevented Americans from coming together to solve the most important problems of our generation. Global warming, lobbying reform, poverty, health care, wars, terrorism, education, housing and banking reform, and energy and water shortages-these are complex global problems that Talbott argues cannot be left to the free market business world or governments to solve. Once emphasis is placed on citizen involvement, real solutions become apparent to our most pressing problems. A completely laissez-faire world of unregulated markets and uncontrolled globalization can be returned to a properly regulated free market that responds to the voice of a democratic people. And the American values of goodness, justice, and fairness to all Americans reflected in this young man of Africa and Kansas can once again be incorporated into our economic and financial system. A former investment banker for Goldman Sachs, John R. Talbott is the author of four books on economics and politics, including The Coming Crash in the Housing Market. He has appeared on CNN, Fox News, CNBC, and CBS Marketwatch and has written for The Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times, and The Boston Globe. About the Author A former investment banker for Goldman Sachs, John R. Talbott is the author of four books on economics and politics, including "The Coming Crash of the Housing Market," a bestseller that predicted the current housing and mortgage crisis. He's appeared on CNN, Fox News, CNBC, CBS Marketwatch and written for the Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times. Product Details • Paperback: 256 pages • Publisher: Seven Stories Press (July 1, 2008) • Language: English • ISBN-10: 1583228659 • ISBN-13: 978-1583228654 ………… New York Times October 13, 2008 No New Economic Proposal Expected From McCain By JACKIE CALMES WASHINGTON — Despite signals that Senator John McCain would have new prescriptions for the economic crisis after a weekend of meetings, his campaign said Sunday that Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, would not have any more proposals this week unless developments call for some. The signs of internal confusion came as the campaign was under pressure from state party leaders to sharpen his message on the economy and at least blunt the advantage that Democrats traditionally have on the issue in hard times. Republicans have grown fretful as Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, has edged ahead in polls three weeks before the election, while Mr. McCain has veered between ill-received economic plans and attacks on Mr. Obama’s character. Mr. McCain took a break Sunday from filming campaign advertisements and practicing for a final debate with Mr. Obama on Wednesday to cheer volunteers at a phone bank near his Northern Virginia headquarters. Mr. McCain told them he planned to “whip his you-know-what in this debate.” The group erupted with laughter and applause. On Saturday, his advisers were considering a range of economic ideas, one indicated. On Sunday, on the CBS News program “Face the Nation,” Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a confidant of Mr. McCain, confirmed a report on Politico.com that Mr. McCain was weighing proposals to cut taxes on investors’ capital gains and dividends. “It will be a very comprehensive approach to jump-start the economy,” Mr. Graham said, “by allowing capital to be formed easier in America by lowering taxes.” But McCain advisers later said they did not know why Mr. Graham said that. One noted that Mr. McCain’s economic plan already would cut capital gains and dividend tax rates, by extending President Bush’s 2003 tax cuts. At the phone bank, Mr. McCain declined to answer a question from a reporter about what he was considering. “We do not have any immediate plans to announce any policy proposals outside of the proposals that John McCain has announced, and the certain proposals that would result as economic news continues to come our way,” said a campaign spokesman, Tucker Bounds. Mr. McCain’s policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said, “I have no comment on anything, to anybody.” Rarely have presidential campaigns had to react so close to an election to so serious a crisis as the global economic panic. Both candidates are struggling to look like leaders, without impeding the efforts of those in charge. By nearly all accounts and in recent polls, Mr. Obama has received higher marks for projecting calm and consistency while Mr. McCain has been criticized as flailing. “At this point I don’t think McCain can say anything on the economy that will sound credible,” said Bruce Bartlett, a former economic adviser to President Ronald Reagan and President George Bush. Mr. McCain continued to draw criticism for his announcement last week that, as president, he would have the Treasury buy troubled mortgages at face value and give qualified homeowners instead government-guaranteed, low-interest mortgages based on their residences’ reduced value. After first saying lenders would pay the difference, the next day the McCain campaign said taxpayers would. On the ABC News program “This Week” on Sunday, the second-ranking House Republican leader, Representative Roy Blunt of Missouri, suggested, as the Obama campaign has, that the McCain mortgage proposal was unnecessary because the concept was “essentially in several pieces of law already” and wrong to leave taxpayers with the cost. “Somebody needs to take the loss here, and it needs to be the person that had the bad judgment of making that loan, of buying those poorly put-together mortgage-backed securities,” Mr. Blunt said. “It shouldn’t be loss borne by the taxpayer.” Both Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama plan speeches Monday on the economy. Mr. Obama, at a rally in Toledo, Ohio, will suggest ways to build on the government’s plan to inject capital into banks to ease the credit crisis, an adviser said. Mr. McCain will be in North Carolina and Virginia, states that Republicans can normally count on but where Mr. Obama is showing strength. In his visit with volunteers on Sunday, Mr. McCain acknowledged that “the economy has hurt us a little bit in the last week or two” and that he was “a couple points down” in national polls. But he said he would rebound because voters “want knowledge and they want vision.” ]]>

<![CDATA["See you use several names to post from, thus enabling you to duck and dodge your recitation of talking points. You post links and lifted quotes from Messr's Keith and Chris. " Nope, when I'm on the Detroit board, I only use this ID. Plus I only use mainstream sources. I've never quoted Keith and Chris (assuming Olbermann and Matthews). You are a liar. Again, you have ZERO facts, only your pathetic imagination. You're an amateur and a piss poor one at that. But I guess you're done with your feeble attempt at debate. Because like a typical con, you've completely abandoned the issues. I can't tell you how many times I've seen cons like you do just that. You people are a national embarrassment. ]]>

<![CDATA[Ahh could you be more misguided?? I'm an evil drooling con, thus devoid of feelings or emotions. So, I guess that makes you wrong Won an argument with me? Please, for that you would have to stay on point, something you are incapable of ever doing. Live in Minn but reside and registered here. Fill out your MINN absentee ballot yet?? Vote early, vote often. I only state facts cloture boy. We won't go there again. See you use several names to post from, thus enabling you to duck and dodge your recitation of talking points. You post links and lifted quotes from Messr's Keith and Chris. An original thought would be as alien to you as the fleshy inner part of someone else's thigh, not counting ma and pa here. You are mine, I own you. You is my beeeotch. My punk if you will. I like your fire, it's so nice to put out.]]>

<![CDATA[The Bush administration has added 5 trillion dollars to the deficit in eight years. 5 trillion is approximately $16000 for every citizen or $66000 for a family of four. My question is, with all of that money getting spent, where is it? Who were the actual recipients of all this money? It sure wasn't American families... Can you believe we spent 5 trillion dollars and now have the middle class losing their homes and jobs? Thanks Republicans. ]]>

<![CDATA[" I only claim superiority over you. Just you. Only you." What are you basing that on? You incorrect comments? Your hacked logic? Your conspiracy theories? Your simple minded misunderstanding of our process? Your misspelled postings? "There are many dem libs who offer thought provoking commentary, you cannot carry their water." Ahhhh, I see the problem you are having here. You assume that I am trying to start a debate and persuade you. In reality I'm using factual information to beat the living shit out of you and expose cons as frauds. "You've never won an argument with me." I've won EVERY argument with you, junior. Why? Because you have no facts. Only made up bullshit. "I only argue with people who can reason and have a stake in matters. " Why? You can't reason. You are incapable of reason. I'm using your posts as a gauge for that opinion. "You live in Minnesota, you will vote for Al Franken, you do not matter." I live in Minnesota but am a Michigan resident and a registered Michigan voter. Try using facts next time, drooler. But still, we're discussing NATIONAL politics. "In your sad pathetic short life you have been the focus of much scorn, for that I pity you" Mostly by the very same republicans that I expose as liars and frauds. I'm sure Charles Manson didn't like his prosecutors much either. But, I notice that you've completely given up the issues, ignored my comments and are desperately relying ONLY on insults. Kinda like McCain is now. Whenever you conshits are pummeled on facts, you go to your desperate default; insults and conspiracy theories. You're a joke Cheneymail, with no realistic understanding of politics or economics (typical of conservative republicans). It really isn't relevant if you agree. Give it up junior, you can't win. You can't beat me. Its futile to even try. ]]>

<![CDATA[Did it take you all night to come up with that. You're slipping. Damn to have the time to cut and paste like you do, must be a slow day at HQ eh?? I only claim superiority over you. Just you. Only you. There are many dem libs who offer thought provoking commentary, you cannot carry their water. You've never won an argument with me. I only argue with people who can reason and have a stake in matters. You live in Minnesota, you will vote for Al Franken, you do not matter. In your sad pathetic short life you have been the focus of much scorn, for that I pity you. Not a lot mind you, but some. Oh keep pummeling me oh great giant head. In every responce you post you still duck the cruxt of a question posed to you. Either you can't understand or just too stupid to learn. Most likely a combination of both. But you are entertaining. For every nondefense of your man that you give, maybe it will encourage someone to do some thinking of their own. Something you should try someday. It will hurt having to use your giant brain for the first time. But once it's fired up and running, a whole world may open up to you. You can leave that basement, find a job, kiss a girl or boy. Who knows, you may even smile. There's some hope for change.]]>

<![CDATA[Because "They've predicted the last several presidential elections" <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE49D0WE20081014" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE49D0WE20081014</a> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama has opened a 6-point lead over Republican John McCain one day before the White House rivals meet in their final debate, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Tuesday. Obama leads McCain 49 percent to 43 percent among likely U.S. voters in the latest four-day tracking poll, up slightly from Obama's 4-point advantage on Monday. The poll has a margin of error of 2.9 percentage points. LMFAO!!!!!]]>

<![CDATA[Rep. Tim Mahoney (D-FL) – who replaced former congressman Mark Foley (R) – “is facing scandalous allegations of his own.” ABC News reports Mahoney paid $121,000 to “a former mistress who worked on his staff and was threatening to sue him.” He has called on the House ethics committee to investigate his own behavior.]]>

<![CDATA["Yeah, Michigan was never in play, but the McCain camp waited until Barry committed to lots of airtime" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! SO losing Michigan was really a brilliant strategic move by republicans? Holy crap! Sorry pinhead, Michigan WAS in play and the polls were close until McCain lost his mind and imploded last month. "There is still an October suprise, and it make this closer than you're being lead to believe.. " The only October SURPRISE McCain has is the surprise he left for you in his Depends Undergarment. ]]>

<![CDATA["I only get trashy cuz it's the only thing you respond to." Thats the ONLY thing you do is trash! "A fact based question you just ignore, or you bring up Craig, Keating 5, etc etc." Ummmm... typically in response to your babbling on about conservatives begin morally superior or the nonsensical fabricated "scandals" of Obama. "You have no real knowledge of the political process, just your talking point sheets." I find it amusing that YOU are saying that to me. How ironic! "You think the election is over, fine, move on to educating us about global warming" We've already done that. You resist that education as well. "Because you have your polls, your glorious polls." Actually you'd have to be an ignorant stupid ass to think that the GOP doesn't use polls. "Here's where I tell you not to buy the balloons just yet. Have you ever been polled? Has anyone on this board been polled? Some will say yes, but I doubt it." Yeah, I've been called 3x the past 4 weeks. " Now, most people have at least an answering machine to screen those calls." I answer my phone. I'm not a recluse like you. "The smart folk don't even have landlines anymore." The smart people have both. " An underpaid lower class person who can't recognize the pictures on the clown's cash register" Thats a creative way to avoid the fact that you are losing the polls. Actually if cell phones were included in polling data, Obama's lead would be exponentially more. Obama is leading heavily in the under 30 vote and those people tend to have ONLY cell phones. "Oh by the way, you still haven't responded to Barry's having his political intro the terrorists home." What terrorist? He wasn't convicted of any crime. BTW- candidates go on hundreds of meet and greets a year. It doesn't signify a relationship. "Why, because your talking point sheet doesn't tell how to respond. Instead bring up the Annenberg Foundation again. But when bringing it up AGAIN, tell us what Barry an Bill did with the 50 million. How were the "children" empowered. Again, you can't. Damn, I'm ashamed of myself for keeping this one smut free." Hey drooler, we bring up the Annenberg foundation because you whine and shit in your pants about Obama "begin a terrorist" because he was on the board with Ayers, but ignore the republicans who founded the board and the republicans and corporate leaders who were also on the board. Hey, your twisted and semi-retarded logic would also necessitate this: Obama was on the board with Arnold Weber, assistant secretary of labor in the Nixon administration. Therefore by association, Obama is a conservative republican capitalist. Chenymail, you are a hack! A parroter of nonsense and conspiracy theories. ]]>

<![CDATA[If you're old enough, you can remember when Detroit was a strong and vibrant city. Then the demographics changed and Coleman Young was elected mayor. The slow but certain death began. It appears that a majority wants to see the same thing happen to the United States. Because an Obama presidency will share the same values that Coleman Young brought to the city of Detroit.]]>

<![CDATA[Where was hatred in my rant?? What group did I single out? I think I was effective in pointing out that a small minded person was trying to introduce deviciveness into a area where it doesn't belong. That person could very well a lilly white born and bred on these shores man or woman. But what they were promoting was very un-American. To show a picture of a grenade launcher and warn that the election will rip apart the ethnic patchwork of our country, my country, your country merely illustrates that the poster has no understanding of what makes America great. Chastise me if it makes you feel good, that is your right. A right which many people of vastly different backgrounds have died to insure that WE keep that right. But I would ask that you produce a writing of mine that depicts any hatred of a race or religious group. ]]>

<![CDATA[Cheneymail: Well said: "Oh you needn't worry, we'll all be fine regardless of who wins. This is America, we can disagree, bitch and moan. It is our right..." As McCain rightly chastised the Minnesota rally, Obama is a decent family man. Obama isn't a radical fundamentalist. Campbell Brown (CNN) did an 'op-ed' last night about invoking 'Arab' or 'Muslim' as a derogatory label. Equally derogatory (in my view) is Right Wing Fundamentalist - those who would kill, injure, exclude anyone who doesn't agree with their interpretation of the Bible and/or self-delusional opinions. Since 9/11, the Arab American communities have been maligned. Just as the early 1900's when Irish Americans were looked down on, the Arab Americans are now the focus of scorn. America, for those who forget, is a land of immigrants. Tim McVeigh was a white boy, Army enlistee, and Warped-Minded Terrorist...HOME-GROWN. Delusional thinking isn't race/color specific. Those who insist one demonizing the opposition, calling them 'terrorist', 'kill him', 'off with his head', are simply Hate Mongers. Campaign for your choice but stop the venomous hate. ]]>

<![CDATA[All these posters claiming Obama supporters have done something wrong or even violent are just typical RNC dirty tricks squad. The same articles show up in all major city CL/politics. They don't have one good thing to say about John McCain, not one. He is indefensible. So they make up lies and hope to disenchant you. ]]>

<![CDATA[Oh you needn't worry, we'll all be fine regardless of who wins. This is America, we can disagree, bitch and moan. It is our right. President McCain, President Obama or President Nader will try to whatever they think is right for their country. And even people who did cast their vote to the winner will support our president. We survived Tories, Whigs, Republicans and Democrats. And in a real crisis those labels wash away. The one that remains is American. So sow deep your seeds of hate and doom, they will not grow here. Tend them and keep them watered, they will not grow here. When they sprout to the light of day, they will wither and die. Things we don't joke about, the deaths of leaders or fellow citizens. As an American, you would know that.]]>

<![CDATA[No, I believe it, this is not the first I have heard of this. Your info is more complete, Thanks for posting this. Funny how you see this and know it as evil yet many do not...]]>

<![CDATA[Save your hate and vitriol for the war that is coming. Use the hate and emotions you feel to bring you strength when the nation is divided and killing each other. For a violent, bloody purge is coming. Look at the hatred on both sides of politics, one side is sure to lose. And they're supposed to just accept the loss and get behind the man they hate. Let's see how that works...]]>

<![CDATA[Shocking video about islamic jihad in USA exposed by a muslim <a href="http://www.thethirdjihad.com/30min.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thethirdjihad.com/30min.html</a>]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.woio.com/Global/story.asp?S=9154645" rel="nofollow">http://www.woio.com/Global/story.asp?S=9154645</a> Associated Press - October 9, 2008 8:55 PM ET TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) - A charity that the Treasury Department linked to the militant Islamic group Hamas has filed a lawsuit demanding that federal officials lift a 2-year freeze of its assets. attorneys for Toledo-based Kindhearts for Charitable Humanitarian Development says the government hasn’t given a reason why it was targeted, and has given it no chance to defend itself. The charity has filed suit in U.S. District Court in Toledo. The ACLU is joining in the suit. The Treasury Department in 2006 ordered U.S. banks to freeze the charity’s assets, saying it was funneling money to Hamas, which the United States considers a terrorist organization. KindHearts officials have denied being connected to any terrorist group. The charity was shut down in 2006 two days before three men from Toledo were accused of plotting to kill American and allied soldiers overseas. Documents seized by federal agents suggested that 2 of the three Muslim men—who were later convicted—may have had ties to Kindhearts. KindHearts leaders have said it is a nonprofit charitable organization administering humanitarian aid. It estimated the group provided $5 million to $6 million annually in charity assistance. I figured this would be the kind of association Obama would like so I googled “KindHearts and Obama”, and sure enough: <a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.asp..." rel="nofollow">http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.asp...</a> Two years ago, Hatem El-Hady was the chairman of the Toledo, Ohio-based Islamic charity, Kindhearts, which was closed by the US government in February 2006 for terrorist fundraising and all its assets frozen. Today, El-Hady has redirected his fundraising efforts for his newest cause - Barack Obama for President. El-Hady has his own DEDICATED PAGE ON BARACK OBAMA’S OFFICIAL WEBSITE, chronicling his fundraising on behalf of the Democratic Party presidential candidate (his Obama profile established on February 19, 2008 - two years to the day after Kindhearts was raided by the feds). Not only that, but he has none other than Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle Obama, listed as one of his friends (one of her 224 listed friends). But his leadership of Kindhearts is not the only thing that has brought him scrutiny by federal law enforcement officials. Last summer, El-Hady was questioned by the FBI concerning his knowledge of possible conspirators in a UK-based terror plot. <a href="http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Toledo07160..." rel="nofollow">http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Toledo07160...</a> 16 July 2007: The Northeast Intelligence Network was first to confirm during the June 30, 2007 edition of the Homeland Security Report that last month’s failed London car bomb plot had its tentacles reaching far into the United States. Now, NBC24, a television station in Toledo, Ohio is reporting that the FBI has questioned a Muslim doctor who recently moved to Toledo from the UK. Toledo also happens to be the corporate home of KindHearts for Charitable Humanitarian Development, an Islamic charity chaired by Hatem El-HADY, a Toledo physician, and a charity that has been the subject of an investigation for its reported ties to terror organizations. ]]>

<![CDATA[What part of mars did you grow up on?? Your best bet is to actually start researching issues (I know you have internet service) instead of relying on BSNBC and comedy central for your information.]]>

<![CDATA[Bravo, it was over in MI long ago, but the race will tighten again. I think someone played John a tape of Jennifer's "you ain't seen nothin yet" and he saw the writing on the wall. Then he got wind of the mayor of the state's largest city pleading guilty to a felony then being allowed to stay on the job for few more weeks. Yeah, Michigan was never in play, but the McCain camp waited until Barry committed to lots of airtime(nonrefundable) before pulling the plug. Afterall, Jennifer ran on the promise of all jobs she was going to bring here, her cool cities and the rebound just around the corner. But fear not, There is still an October suprise, and it make this closer than you're being lead to believe..]]>

<![CDATA[Bush has the worst approval rating in all American history. Bush lost two wars, lost New Orleans, lost 750 billion to Wall St, and increased US debt by 5 trillion. Carter was Jesus Christ himself compared to Bush!]]>

<![CDATA[I only get trashy cuz it's the only thing you respond to. A fact based question you just ignore, or you bring up Craig, Keating 5, etc etc. You are a broken record. You have no real knowledge of the political process, just your talking point sheets. You think the election is over, fine, move on to educating us about global warming. Ahh but wait your talking point sheets tell you to keep plugging away. Because you have your polls, your glorious polls. Here's where I tell you not to buy the balloons just yet. Have you ever been polled? Has anyone on this board been polled? Some will say yes, but I doubt it. See, anyone with half a brain avoids telemarketing calls. And hey guess what?? That's what a poll consists of. A phone bank of people making random calls. Now, most people have at least an answering machine to screen those calls. The smart folk don't even have landlines anymore. So who does that leave?? A person so desperate for human contact that they will answer the phone and talk to anyone. And who are they talking to? An underpaid lower class person who can't recognize the pictures on the clown's cash register. I know I've knocked your two jobs but ces la vie. Now, stick with me skippy, the person answering the phone of course will say they are a registered voter, just to keep the call going, and since their stories and Springer are on the local channels, they do what the nice man on the picture box tells them. Oh by the way, you still haven't responded to Barry's having his political intro the terrorists home. Why, because your talking point sheet doesn't tell how to respond. Instead bring up the Annenberg Foundation again. But when bringing it up AGAIN, tell us what Barry an Bill did with the 50 million. How were the "children" empowered. Again, you can't. Damn, I'm ashamed of myself for keeping this one smut free.]]>

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<![CDATA[Wait till you get a taste of jimmy carter style liberalism, then you'll see why the liberal democrats were in the dumpers for so many years. Time goes on, memory's fade and a new generation of voters have to experience it first hand. After 4 years you'll be more than happy to bid Obama a "bon voyage" and "happy trails spaz". Never thought I'd have to live through it twice, but it looks as if the media has herded the sheeple in for a fleeceing and off to slaughter. On another note, did ya ever wonder why McCain gave up on michigan? He looked at the last governors election and concluded the following. Here's a state entering into's it 5th straight year in a one state reccession, you have an incumbant with a 4 year track record of proven failure. And her opponent, a business man with a lifetime record of proven success. The democrats in michigan re-elect the proven failure, the first thing she does after being re-elected?.... Raise taxes. McCain figured any state as stupid as michigan deserves whatever is happening to it, and he was'nt gonna waste his money on complete moron's. ]]>

<![CDATA[DO you see any polls that McCain is winning? <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html</a> Nope, me neither! <a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.electoral-vote.com/</a> The electoral vote is a landslide. I love it! Its a great day to be an American and a terrible time to be a republican. ]]>

<![CDATA[Face it drooler, if you think Obama is a terrorist because he served on a board with one, so are the republicans who formed the board, employed a terrorist and funded him. As well as the other people on the board are terrorists in your diseased conservative mind: Among the other board members who served with Obama were: Stanley Ikenberry, former president of the University of Illinois; Arnold Weber, former president of Northwestern University and assistant secretary of labor in the Nixon administration; Scott Smith, then publisher of the Chicago Tribune; venture capitalist Edward Bottum; John McCarter, president of the Field Museum; Patricia Albjerg Graham, former dean of the Harvard University Graduate School of Journalism, and a host of other mainstream folks. Your opinions really aren't relevant, but it sure is fun the beat you down! I'm sure you'll come back with some sexually vulgar response to prove you are trash. You haven't let me down yet. ]]>

<![CDATA[while palin, the fundamentalist evangelical, opposes embryonic stem cell research and abortion under any circumstance. for the election, mccain poses pro life to win over the rest of the christian rite. just last year, in several interviews, john mccain said he is for embryonic stem cell research, and you can find any of those interviews in their full context on youtube. though, he has said that he opposes cloning the embryos and making extra, he has still been(at least before this election), not pro choice, but not pro life, and the yards you see with both mccain and no to prop 2 signs are 85% oxymoron. if you need a real conservative news source, visit www.revolutionbroadcasting.com, and give up fishing in the other 34 milion other votes in mainstream poitics. ]]>

<![CDATA[Well son, I see you put that dictionary and thesaurus to good use. Hate to be critical son, but you know I never effed your ma. I just shot in her sneakers and let the flies do their thing. But your attack son, so mean. I don't know how many times or ways I can apologize for dropping you on your head, 6 times. If your ma hadn't been so lazy the night before and brought home so little money, she could have watched you during the Super Bowl. The first time our team scored and I spiked you, I felt bad, then it just became a drinking game. Well son, gotta fly, just cashed your SSI check and gonna go get me some o your sister, she tires easy now the baby's due, so I may randy when I gets in boy.]]>

<![CDATA[foreign car with the plan to vote for Obama then you are a fool. If you work at Chrysler, Ford, GM and plan to vote for Obama, you, too, are a fool.]]>

<![CDATA[Well big giant head, where to start?? A meet and greet eh. So, I guess everyone in town was invited right?? It was a lot more than a ropeline at the community center. But you being Mr Polysci know that that, or more likely not. Screw the more likely, you don't know. Ah the Annenbergs, evil cons to the core, giving millions to improve education?? Wait, what a republican giving money to improve the education of inner city yutes??? Say it ain't so. On that score, for the common good, I wouldn't care if the Shah and Imelda Marcos sat on a board with him if it improved public education(the only kind you are familiar with), oh but what did St Barry's blue ribbon panel do with their millions?? Did education improve improve in Chicago?? Was a better read future inmate produced? Can the hookers and crack dealers count correct change now?? Can a thug now determine how much Obama juice your bowels can hold before critical mass?? Oh, big giant head dearborn, don't leave us again. Your vast knowledge of politics, global warming, the economy and all around Gumpness brings many a smile to a day. Keep up the good work. You are a legend in your own mind..]]>

<![CDATA[If you know how I can get one let me know!!! Thank You, ]]>

<![CDATA[WIth morons like this being the typical con <a href="http://detroit.craigslist.org/pol/878005399.html" rel="nofollow">http://detroit.craigslist.org/pol/878005399.html</a> Conservatism is dead in America. They can't win on issues, so in total sociopathic desperation, they rely on personal attacks and nonsense. The more Obama surges in the polls, the angrier, more desperate and crazy these con loons get. ]]>